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What is my real revenue per seat after processing fees, failed payments and mid cohort exits?

Advertised seat price and collected revenue rarely match. Here is how to compute net per seat, including card fees, plan defaults, prorated exits and the cost of an empty chair.

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numbers and benchmarks from The Roundtable, the working notebook behind MastermindSeats.

Your real revenue per seat is what lands in your bank account after card fees, after the payments that never came in, after prorated exits, divided by the number of seats that were actually occupied for the cohort. For most facilitators running installment plans, it sits somewhere between eighty and ninety two percent of the advertised price. That range is not a benchmark from anywhere. It is what falls out of the arithmetic below, and your own number depends on your processor, your plan structure and your churn.

The reason this matters is that pricing decisions get made on the advertised number. You compare your twelve month seat at six thousand dollars against a peer's and feel fine. But if two of your ten seats exit at month seven with a prorated refund, and card declines eat another slice, the six thousand dollar seat was a five thousand one hundred dollar seat, and the delivery hours were the same either way.

Here is how to build the number from the bottom, with a full worked cohort at the end.

Gross seat price versus collected revenue

Gross seat price is the sticker: the number on the sales page. Collected revenue is what cleared. Between them sit four leaks, and they are worth naming separately because each one has a different fix.

  • Discounts and comps. Early bird pricing, a founding member rate, a free seat for a referrer. Real money, usually untracked.
  • Processing fees. Taken per transaction, so installment plans multiply them.
  • Failed payments never recovered. Charges that declined and stayed declined.
  • Exits and refunds. Money returned, or months never billed because someone left.

Track these as four separate lines. If you only ever look at the deposit total, you cannot tell whether last cohort's shortfall came from discounting too hard at enrollment or from cards failing in month nine, and those call for opposite responses.

Keep reading: What actually happens in the first ninety minutes of a new cohort, and how do I set the norms?

Card processing and installment plan fee structures

US card processing for online payments is typically quoted as a percentage plus a flat per transaction amount. The common published rate for standard online card payments at the major processors sits around two point nine percent plus thirty cents, with international cards and currency conversion adding more. Check your own dashboard for your actual effective rate rather than trusting the headline number, because refunds, disputes and card mix all move it.

The flat component is what makes installment plans expensive. Compare one seat, six thousand dollars, billed three ways at two point nine percent plus thirty cents.

PlanChargesPercentage feeFlat feesTotal fees
Paid in full1 x $6,000$174.00$0.30$174.30
Quarterly4 x $1,500$174.00$1.20$175.20
Monthly12 x $500$174.00$3.60$177.60

The flat fee difference across a whole cohort is a rounding error. So if you have been avoiding monthly plans to save on processing, that is not the reason to avoid them. The real cost of monthly plans is decline risk, which is the next section, and it is an order of magnitude larger.

Two other fee items to hold in view. ACH or bank debit is usually charged at a lower percentage with a cap, which makes it meaningfully cheaper on a large paid in full seat, and it is worth offering for that reason. And a chargeback carries a dispute fee that you pay whether or not you win, on top of losing the original amount if you lose.

Failed payment rates and the recovery window

A recurring charge fails for boring reasons: the card expired, the issuer flagged it, the limit was hit, the member replaced a lost card and forgot which subscriptions were attached to it. Most of these are recoverable if you notice quickly.

The mechanics that matter to you are two. Card account updater services, offered through the major networks and passed through by most processors, automatically refresh a stored card number when the issuer reissues it. Turning that on quietly removes a large slice of expiration related failures. And smart retry scheduling, spreading retries across several days rather than hammering the same day, catches the temporary limit and insufficient funds cases.

What you control directly is the human part of the window. A failed charge that gets a same day email from a person, naming the member and the seat, recovers far more often than one that gets a generic dunning notice on day four. Set the rule: any failed seat payment gets a personal message within twenty four hours, and the seat is flagged in your records until it clears.

A rule for when to pull the seat

  1. Day 0: charge fails. Automated retry scheduled, personal note sent.
  2. Day 3: still failed. Second retry, direct message with an alternate payment link.
  3. Day 7: still failed. Phone or voice note. Ask directly whether she wants to stay.
  4. Day 14: still failed. Seat is paused, access removed, and you tell the room the seat is on hold.

Fourteen days is a choice, not a law. But having a written day count stops you carrying an unpaid seat for four months out of discomfort, which is what actually happens without a rule.

Keep reading: How should I price a twelve month mastermind seat when I am running my very first cohort?

Prorated exits, pauses and what they cost the cohort

An exit costs more than the unbilled months. Assume a twelve month cohort at five hundred dollars a month, and a member leaves after month seven with the remaining five months forgiven. The direct loss is twenty five hundred dollars. But the seat is now empty, and a mid cohort replacement rarely works: the new member missed seven months of context and the room's trust is built.

So the honest way to account for an exit is to treat the empty chair as lost for the rest of the term, and separately to note that your delivery cost barely moved. You still run the same twelve calls. Your cost per remaining seat went up.

Pauses are a softer version of the same problem, and the danger is that they are usually granted verbally with no end date. If you allow pauses, write the terms: maximum length, how many per term, whether the term extends or the payments simply resume, and whether the seat is held or released. A pause with no stated end is an exit you have not admitted to yet.

The cleanest structural fix is to charge a nonrefundable enrollment portion up front, separate from the installments. If a twelve month seat is a fifteen hundred dollar enrollment plus twelve payments of three hundred and seventy five, a month seven exit still leaves you with the enrollment. State it plainly in the agreement, before she signs, and never bury it.

Cost of delivery per seat: your hours, guests and platform

Now the other side. Take one twelve month cohort of ten seats and count the hours honestly.

  • Twenty four calls at ninety minutes: 36 hours live.
  • Prep and hot seat review at thirty minutes per call: 12 hours.
  • Notes, follow ups and commitment tracking at forty five minutes per call: 18 hours.
  • Reading weekly check ins, ten members, five minutes each, fifty weeks: about 42 hours.
  • Enrollment calls, onboarding and offboarding: roughly 20 hours.

That is about 128 hours for the cohort, or roughly 12.8 hours per seat over a year. Add hard costs: two guest experts at seven hundred and fifty dollars each, video and scheduling and payment tooling at a modest monthly figure, and a retreat if you run one. Call the hard costs two thousand five hundred for the cohort, or two hundred and fifty per seat. These are illustrative figures, so substitute your own.

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The break even seat count for a cohort

Break even is the seat count where collected revenue covers your fixed cohort costs plus whatever you must pay yourself. Fixed costs here are the ones that do not change with headcount: your delivery time is nearly fixed, guests are fixed, tooling is fixed.

Work it with the numbers above. Fixed cohort cost of twenty five hundred dollars, plus a target of sixty thousand dollars of your own compensation from this cohort. Net per seat, computed next, is roughly five thousand four hundred dollars.

Break even against costs alone: $2,500 / $5,400, which is one seat. Break even against your compensation target: $62,500 / $5,400, which is 11.6 seats. That tells you something uncomfortable and useful at once. A ten seat room at six thousand dollars does not hit a sixty thousand dollar target after leakage. Either the price goes up, the room gets bigger, or the target comes down.

The worked cohort

Ten seats, advertised at six thousand dollars, twelve monthly payments of five hundred. Assumptions, all mine and all replaceable with yours.

LineAmount
Gross if all ten pay in full$60,000
Two early bird seats at $500 offminus $1,000
One exit at month 7, five payments forgivenminus $2,500
Unrecovered failed payments, 1.5% of billedminus $848
Processing at 2.9% + $0.30 on cleared chargesminus $1,648
Collected revenue$54,004
Divided by ten enrolled seats$5,400 net per seat

Ninety percent of the sticker. Now subtract two hundred and fifty of hard cost per seat and you are at $5,150, against 12.8 hours of your time. That is about four hundred dollars an hour of contribution, which is a real number you can compare to anything else you might do with those hours.

Tracking it cohort over cohort so pricing decisions are grounded

One cohort's number is an anecdote. Three cohorts' numbers are a pricing model. Keep the same seven lines every time: gross, discounts, exits, unrecovered failures, processing, collected, net per seat. Add enrolled seat count and total delivery hours beside them.

Then watch the ratios rather than the totals. If discounts creep from two percent to seven, your enrollment is leaning on price. If unrecovered failures climb, your recovery window has slipped. If net per seat holds but hours per seat rise, you are quietly giving away the margin in delivery.

Where to keep this

None of this works if seat status, payment status and attendance live in three different places. The exit you did not see coming showed up first as two missed calls, then as a declined card, then as an email. MastermindSeats keeps recurring seat billing, failed payment status and attendance history against the same member record, so the number at the bottom of this article is something you can read off rather than reconstruct each January.